Could have been a tougher draw for us, could have been easier. I think United probably have the easiest draw - Valencia have flogged off Silva and Villa, Rangers have their financial problems and the Turks lack ECL experience.

It doesn't take much foresight to work out which group is the Group of Death.

My mate from work travelled over to Utrecht for the game.......... Lennon should have never been given the managers job, he was a great servant to Celtic but has no experience as a manager.

Let's not forget either that Celtic have had their fingers burned in the past with rookie managers- remember John Barnes in the 1999/2000 season? Of course, one would say (rightly) that Lennon has the advantage of having been a Celtic player and captain and knows the club inside out. However, the step up from being a player to being a manager is huge- it will be interesting to see how Lennon and Celtic peform when it comes to the business end of the season.

Games kick off this week  Werder Bremen v Spurs  Gunners v Braga  MSK Zilina v Chelski and the so called battle of Britain Man U v Rangers

Spurs will do well to get a point at Germany especially with injuries to a cple of key players, have watched Braga a couple of times and have been quite impressed but i think Gunners will be to strong. Step into the unknown for Chelsea a trip to Slovakia with a ground capacity of only 11,000 the fans over there will be crazy chelsea players can expect a torrid time from the stands but Chelsea will take all 3 pts.

Finally Man U v Rangers.. a tie that puts my two teams together. I fully expect Man U to rip Rangers up for ass paper and score  at least 3 or 4 seriously it could be embarassing for the Gers, tho they do have an exceptional keeper who will need to be on top form come tuesday night. Weir (aged 40) v  Rooney is a no contest.

I go along with that my only concern is with the Spurs game. I am tempted to put on a coupon for wins for chelsea, arsenal, man u and a loss for spurs.

The key to success in Europe is patience.... its very important to have the ability to keep the ball and be able to change the pace of a game with a killer pass. The injured Modric is a player with all those abilities in abundance and Spurs may struggle without him and Defoe

True

There group isnt that easy, will they be out of their depth I wonder , especially with key injuries

Very frustrating night for Man U... I was somewhat suprised by SAF team selection, however with a game against Liverpool at the weekend he may have thought he could have rested players and gave some hungry players a chance against a Rangers team on paper that should have been beaten.

It was a very typical Rangers european performance  the type that got them to the europa league final a couple of years ago. Walter set his team out to frustrate the living daylight out of the opponents and it did what it said on the tin. They will do the same at Ibrox and look to nick a goal.

Leaving out Nani, Berbatov and Scholes collectively Man Us most creative players  who have been outstanding so far certainly has raised an eyebrow or two given the scoreline. Tho playing against a team with 9 outfield players behind the ball is difficult the intricate passing through the middle was never going to work the exclusion of this players probably didnt matter.

Havent seen any of the Spurs action but i feel a draw in Germany is a decent result for them and a good start to their campaign.

I think the team selection fooled everyone? But Utd still had enough quality to win it. In saying that it is very very hard to break down an 11 man defence.

Horredous injury to Valencia as well.