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#741 Posted : 12 June 2012 11:22:28(UTC)
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Peter Reid on 5 Live now talking about how poor England's passing and ball retention was.

It was pretty good in the first half, less so in the second (a combination IMO of France getting tighter, and pressing the England players more in the second half, and fatigue setting in)


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#742 Posted : 12 June 2012 11:28:07(UTC)
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Peter Reid on 5 Live now talking about how poor England's passing and ball retention was.

It was pretty good in the first half, less so in the second (a combination IMO of France getting tighter, and pressing the England players more in the second half, and fatigue setting in)



Certainly from what I saw a few players from both sides were struggling. It was extremely hot and humid I suppose.
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#743 Posted : 12 June 2012 11:40:13(UTC)
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Bit of a low key bore draw but at this level, if it's progression you're after, it ws just the ticket.

Tentative signs perhaps that the new-look England will be built around a team of even ability players working together on getting the basics right rather than one or two exceptional players being propped-up by the mediocre majority.

One could say that was a very 'German' performance last night

 

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#744 Posted : 12 June 2012 13:01:21(UTC)
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Peter Reid on 5 Live now talking about how poor England's passing and ball retention was.

It was pretty good in the first half, less so in the second (a combination IMO of France getting tighter, and pressing the England players more in the second half, and fatigue setting in)

Certainly from what I saw a few players from both sides were struggling. It was extremely hot and humid I suppose.

 

Surprised that Walcott didnt come on earlier. I would have thought that his speed would be very handy with people tiring. Maybe bring him on with 10/15 minutes left to allow him opportunity for 3 runs.

Ball retention was poor towards the end. Think this was partly due to how deep the midfield were. When someone got the ball there werent many people to pass forward to. Also, when balls ran loose or were half cleared then there was no England player there to try and get the ball. On the rare occasions when england did get forward then they were outnumbered, it seemed like England were only going forward with 2 or 3 people. Surely they could have been a bit more adventurous than that?
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#745 Posted : 12 June 2012 13:02:50(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: nsrobins Go to Quoted Post

Bit of a low key bore draw but at this level, if it's progression you're after, it ws just the ticket.

Tentative signs perhaps that the new-look England will be built around a team of even ability players working together on getting the basics right rather than one or two exceptional players being propped-up by the mediocre majority.

Yeah, struck me as a case of making sure that the players were getting the basics right - something to build on for later games and future tournaments.
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#746 Posted : 12 June 2012 13:27:05(UTC)
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One could say that was a very 'German' performance last night

 

Reminded me more of the England of the 1980s, where defence is paramount and the odd attack is a bonus.

Shame last night's other result didn't fall our way with a draw or a Swedish win. If you presume on the French to beat Ukraine, then our next two games will be against teams that need to beat us to stay in the competition.

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#747 Posted : 12 June 2012 15:42:45(UTC)
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Looks like more trouble may be kicking off between the russian and polish fans in warsaw

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#748 Posted : 12 June 2012 18:44:45(UTC)
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Listening to Jamie Carragher is akin to listening to someone scraping their nails down a blackboard.
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#749 Posted : 12 June 2012 18:47:16(UTC)
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Listening to Jamie Carragher is akin to listening to someone scraping their nails down a blackboard.


Calm down calm down. I admit I did actually turn the sound down when he was speaking!

Should be a spirited game between Poland and Russia.
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#750 Posted : 12 June 2012 18:49:49(UTC)
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Listening to Jamie Carragher is akin to listening to someone scraping their nails down a blackboard.


Calm down calm down. I admit I did actually turn the sound down when he was speaking!

Should be a spirited game between Poland and Russia.


I should imagine the mic is just thrown away after. You can't clean off that amount phlegm.

Yep, should be a good one, although I've got a feeling the headlines tomorrow won't be solely about the football.
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#751 Posted : 12 June 2012 20:10:38(UTC)
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Of course it's common knowledge that ITV provide the worst sporting punditry in the world, but what's with the pro-Poland bias? I want Russia to win
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#752 Posted : 12 June 2012 20:32:51(UTC)
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Listening to Jamie Carragher is akin to listening to someone scraping their nails down a blackboard.

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Looks like a drawski.
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#754 Posted : 12 June 2012 20:39:37(UTC)
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The pundits did indeed seem to mention Poland a lot, although I felt that Poland were the underdogs anyway which would seem to lend itself to mentioning them more.

Either way, both goals were good, although I thought that the Polish one was the best

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"Proud night", "Heros", "Warriors"...... Sheesh, get a grip Tyldesley. Is he of Polish descendency?

Thought that was a poor game on the whole. Russia didn't look anywhere near as cutting edge against a pretty well organised Polish defence.

Apparently any tournament is "So, so, so much more special if the hosts stay in."..... Is it?
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#756 Posted : 12 June 2012 21:26:30(UTC)
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Anyone else think the Euros is a far superior tournament to The World Cup? I'm genuinely enjoying this tournament more than any for some while. I'm sure the lack of anxiousness over what England will and won't do is part of that, but most of the games have been well contested and technically impressive
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#757 Posted : 12 June 2012 21:31:18(UTC)
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I agree matty much better than the world cup that took an age to get going. Im enjoying even the easy games. Sofar so good. Quite evenly matched with no team standing out a mile yet. I.m.o :)
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#758 Posted : 12 June 2012 21:59:20(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Matty H Go to Quoted Post
Of course it's common knowledge that ITV provide the worst sporting punditry in the world, but what's with the pro-Poland bias? I want Russia to win

Didn't get chance to watch it, but Isaw the second half of the England match and I thought the ITV pundits overrated our performance - though TBF it could have been because I missed the first half.

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#759 Posted : 12 June 2012 22:00:36(UTC)
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Denmark v Portugal.
Denmark look set to call up Michael Silberauer to man-mark Cristiano Ronaldo, as he did during the Danes' home qualifying win over Portugal.
Left-back Simon Poulsen is expected to make way in a formation reshuffle.
Portugal head coach Paolo Bento could replace the misfiring Helder Postiga with either Hugo Almeida, who has recovered from flu, or hand 20-year-old Nelson Oliveira his first start. y

Holland v Germany.

Remember worldcup 90 moody voller v Frank rijkaard.

Netherlands coach Bert van Marwijk has to decide whether to start with prolific Schalke 04 istriker Klaas-Jan Huntelaar against Germany in Group B.
Robin van Persie or Ibrahim Affelay could make way if Huntelaar starts.
Central defender Joris Mathijsen has resumed full training and is also in contention to return, with Ron Vlaar potentially set to miss out.
Germany have a fully fit squad, with Bastien Schweinsteiger coming through the Portugal game in good condition
He was rested from pre-tournament warm-up friendlies after suffering a calf injury in Bayern Munich's Champions League final defeat to Chelsea.
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#760 Posted : 12 June 2012 22:17:32(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Matty H Go to Quoted Post
Anyone else think the Euros is a far superior tournament to The World Cup? I'm genuinely enjoying this tournament more than any for some while. I'm sure the lack of anxiousness over what England will and won't do is part of that, but most of the games have been well contested and technically impressive

 

I agree cant remember a better tournament every game has been good so far, no outstanding team and theres probably 5 or 6 teams that could go on and win it.

Quite nasty scenes in Warsaw tonight well over a 100 arrested its going to be a long night for the Polish Police I think.

 
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