Anyway, the one story I'm certainly following is the Italian match fixing investigation and how that will pan out for the CL next season.
It wasn’t the Liverpool’s fans fault.... it never is it never was. Hillsborough was the fault of the police for allowing the Liverpool fans that turned up with no tickets to get in the ground. The Liverpool fans that rushed to the gate knowing they had no tickets........ And the planners for not building a big enough stand for the number of people turning up that day.
They're too busy having palpitations at the thought of getting either Martinez or Rodgers as manager. Two managers who are nowhere near big enough to run the world's greatest club.
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F*ck it. I wasn't going to bite, but when I see such drivel written, I can't not do.
At Hillsborough, the police failures weren't just outside the ground, but also as the tragedy was unfolding and in their actions afterwards. The initial problem was a logjam of fans still not having gained entry to the ground with just minutes to go before kick off. Most had tickets, a minority didn't and were hoping to pog-in somehow. That isn't/wasn't unusual in football, especially in big games. Frequently, the kick off is put back 5/10/15 mins to allow fans to get in. Not this time. THis created a clamour to get in quickly, resulting in some crushing toward the front. The police opened the gates - probably the correct decision, but neglected to direct the mass of fans once inside. Most went for the nearest entrances into the stands - unfortunately the middles which were already full. The numbers were swelled further by some who didn't have tickets. An early chance brought a loud roar from the crowd and that made fans pile in quicker.
It was soon apparent that there was a problem with crushing. Some stewards recognised it. Fans being crushed at the front certain did. Many started trying to climb out, but the police were more interested in forcing them back in than crowd safety. Some police did this with downright aggression. Safety doors weren't opened. It took too long for the realisation to sink in that there was a serious problem unfolding.
Even once the police did wake up to the scale of the event, ambulances were stopped from entering the stadium onto the pitch after just a couple had made it on. There were 42 ambulances kept waiting outside the stadium, stopped by the police from going to the aid of those dying.
But the part that annoys Liverpool fans the most (and indeed it should rankle with any fair-minded person) is the cover-up afterwards, orchestrated by the police to deflect attention away from their own shockingly poor handling of the tragedy. They told lies, they blamed everyone else but themselves. Other parts of the 'establushment' were complicit. The official verdict from the coroner that all those that died had effectively done so by 3.15 has been proven to be sheer bollocks. This time also conveniently prevented a full inquest into the response of the emergency services.
Whilst it's de rigueur for smartarsed numpties to pour scorn on Liverpool fans for their reaction to Hillsborough, it just makes such people look like the arsewits they really are.
Seek out your audience .......
A rush to the gate just before kick off by people with and without tickets would have lead to deaths to some outside. The poor victims of the tragedy have every right to feel aggrieved by the actions of the police and lack of organisation that day. But it was the Liverpool supports that turned up late and rushed the gates that day that must take some of the blame.You need to ask why did the supporters rush through a gate that was opened as exit for fans turned away because of no tickets but could not leave due to the crush on the outside of the normal entrance.Many years later in Istanbul some supported without tickets rushed the barriersAt Wembley last year a set of Manchester united fans tried to rush a gate..... It’s not just the Liverpool supports that do it, or did it, but that does not stop any of the blame being place onto those supporters.
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I'm surprised no-one had blamed the bankers Although I suppose the police do work for the bankers ......
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It's a bit old hat this, really isn't it, true 39 people died, but disasters happen, buildings burn down, ships sink, planes crash.
These sort of things go on all the time. I am sure that the relations of those who died haven't forgotten, however life moves on no matter what.
Anyway Matty there are bound to be some other disasters you can commemorate coming up, although I can't remember one in june, couple in july though!
there are bound to be some other disasters you can commemorate coming up, although I can't remember one in june, couple in july though!
you're not one of those shallow types who post 'rip' and sad smilies in all disaster threads without actually acknowledging what happened, are you? not meaning to be offensive but your quoted sentence concerns me
Well it would need an attention span of longer than 5 seconds, so I guess I shouldn't have expected you to read it. My bad.
in what way (are you concerned)? it was a reply to the original post, which seemed to be inviting some forms of comment, not really an expression of sympathy so it appeared.
Apart from that, I didn't use any "smilies" i think. What is a rip smilie anyway?