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Essan Offline
#141 Posted : 16 May 2012 12:43:31(UTC)
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I see that *****is still adamant that this May will be "between the coldest in 100 years and the 5th coldest in 100 years" - meaning a CET of 9.8c or lower.

http://climaterealists.com/index.php?id=9619
I'll be surprised if it's more than the 15th coldest in 100 years, and it may even end up only being the coldest since 2010

Edited by user 16 May 2012 12:44:18(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#142 Posted : 16 May 2012 12:47:31(UTC)
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A below average May in itself is a rarity in recent times. 2010 is the only one since 1996.
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#143 Posted : 16 May 2012 13:00:41(UTC)
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In a lot of ways - it feels worse than this.

http://climate-uk.com/

But its bad enough.

 

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#144 Posted : 16 May 2012 13:52:22(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger Go to Quoted Post

In a lot of ways - it feels worse than this.

http://climate-uk.com/

But its bad enough.

 

If it feels worse than those statistics suggest then it must truly have been dire up there so far this month! Down here in Pompey it's not been great but it could have been so much worse; the last few days have had decent amounts of sunshine and rainfall isn't far from the average. The temperatures have often been dissapointing though.

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Essan Offline
#145 Posted : 16 May 2012 13:54:53(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Brummie Snowman Go to Quoted Post
A below average May in itself is a rarity in recent times. 2010 is the only one since 1996.


Exactly.  But we can't have above average temps every year ... 

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#146 Posted : 16 May 2012 14:34:18(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Essan Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Brummie Snowman Go to Quoted Post
A below average May in itself is a rarity in recent times. 2010 is the only one since 1996.


Exactly.  But we can't have above average temps every year ... 

Last year starting to look like a blip in a falling trend:

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/hadcet/graphs/HadCET_graph_ylybars_uptodate.gif

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#147 Posted : 16 May 2012 16:20:55(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Darren S Go to Quoted Post

Thanks GW. It's an interesting statistic that this Spring will still have been warmer than every single Spring of the 1970s!

To be honest, I'm old enough to remember the springs of the second half of the 1970s, and I can't ever remember prolonged warm weather in Spring like we have had in recent years. I do remember Summer 1976 though.

This is what I have been telling people. On average this Spring will likely end up pretty normal. It's just that April and May so far have been that bad we've already forgotton the gloroius March.

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#148 Posted : 16 May 2012 18:50:52(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Younger Dryas Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Essan Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Brummie Snowman Go to Quoted Post
A below average May in itself is a rarity in recent times. 2010 is the only one since 1996.


Exactly.  But we can't have above average temps every year ... 

Last year starting to look like a blip in a falling trend:

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/hadcet/graphs/HadCET_graph_ylybars_uptodate.gif

In spite of your love of AGW, even you may need to soon face up to the reality of the cooling climate

Daft comment which detracts from a good thread.

Thanks GW.

Amazing how warm the springs have become. A warm spell is part and parcel of spring these days.

1962 looks very cold; didn't 1963 have a really cold March after the cold winter?

 

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#149 Posted : 16 May 2012 23:20:37(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: nsrobins Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Darren S Go to Quoted Post

Thanks GW. It's an interesting statistic that this Spring will still have been warmer than every single Spring of the 1970s!

To be honest, I'm old enough to remember the springs of the second half of the 1970s, and I can't ever remember prolonged warm weather in Spring like we have had in recent years. I do remember Summer 1976 though.

This is what I have been telling people. On average this Spring will likely end up pretty normal. It's just that April and May so far have been that bad we've already forgotton the gloroius March.

Yep!  I'm in agreement with that too!  I'm old enough to remember Springs from a few decades ago and I don't think this year will be far from average.  I particularly remember taking my kids to a local steam rally one May Day Bank Hol in the 80's and we were very surprised to be able to walk around in T shirts, which was very unusual for that time of year and it was talked about for days.

I think with this year, we were so spoilt by the weather in March that our expectations for what might come were too high and that made the April weather a bigger disappointment.  May hasn't been too bad here.

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#150 Posted : 17 May 2012 20:19:20(UTC)
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First look at the CET out to the end of the month. A lot of uncertainty in the models at the moment so things will no doubt change again but at present there are signs of something quite warm in the latter part of the month.

My CET estimate currently stands at just 9.05C. A slow rise over the next 4 days before a potentially much bigger rise which on current output could get us as high as 10.7C.

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#151 Posted : 18 May 2012 08:43:29(UTC)
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Yes, a much warmer outlook and potential for the CET to see a significant rise between now and the month end.  Light at the end of the tunnel, so fingers crossed this comes off! 

My 11.5c guess isn't looking quite as daft now! 

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#152 Posted : 18 May 2012 10:22:38(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Caz Go to Quoted Post

Yes, a much warmer outlook and potential for the CET to see a significant rise between now and the month end.  Light at the end of the tunnel, so fingers crossed this comes off! 

My 11.5c guess isn't looking quite as daft now! 

My 10.5C CET forecast guess is looking good now.

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#153 Posted : 18 May 2012 13:51:17(UTC)
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To 09.00 today:

Tan Hill 4.2c 

Here it stands at 7.63c, which is 3.27c overall down on the full month of May 2011 the next week or so should close the gap somewhat

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#154 Posted : 18 May 2012 16:38:23(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Caz Go to Quoted Post

Yes, a much warmer outlook and potential for the CET to see a significant rise between now and the month end.  Light at the end of the tunnel, so fingers crossed this comes off! 

My 11.5c guess isn't looking quite as daft now! 

My 10.5C CET forecast guess is looking good now.

  Over the past couple of weeks I've been thinking your guess forecast isn't far off the mark.  Now, I'm thinking you and I could be at equidistance from the mark!   Then we'll both be happy bunnies! 

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#155 Posted : 18 May 2012 18:58:05(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Caz Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Caz Go to Quoted Post

Yes, a much warmer outlook and potential for the CET to see a significant rise between now and the month end.  Light at the end of the tunnel, so fingers crossed this comes off! 

My 11.5c guess isn't looking quite as daft now! 

My 10.5C CET forecast guess is looking good now.

  Over the past couple of weeks I've been thinking your guess forecast isn't far off the mark.  Now, I'm thinking you and I could be at equidistance from the mark!   Then we'll both be happy bunnies! 

I was 0.2C off the mark last time Caz. I reckon on the basis of GWs forecasts and estimates it maybe the same result again. It would be good to get a bang on target figure - you get a lot of points for that. Anyway. It's all good fun.

 

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#156 Posted : 18 May 2012 20:32:42(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Caz Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Caz Go to Quoted Post

Yes, a much warmer outlook and potential for the CET to see a significant rise between now and the month end.  Light at the end of the tunnel, so fingers crossed this comes off! 

My 11.5c guess isn't looking quite as daft now! 

My 10.5C CET forecast guess is looking good now.

  Over the past couple of weeks I've been thinking your guess forecast isn't far off the mark.  Now, I'm thinking you and I could be at equidistance from the mark!   Then we'll both be happy bunnies! 

I was 0.2C off the mark last time Caz. I reckon on the basis of GWs forecasts and estimates it maybe the same result again. It would be good to get a bang on target figure - you get a lot of points for that. Anyway. It's all good fun.

Indeed it is all good fun and it's a good job too otherwise I might as well give up this year!    I really wish you good luck but I'm starting to believe it could go higher and I won't complain if it does get up to 11c!  

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#157 Posted : 18 May 2012 21:32:13(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Caz Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Caz Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Caz Go to Quoted Post

Yes, a much warmer outlook and potential for the CET to see a significant rise between now and the month end.  Light at the end of the tunnel, so fingers crossed this comes off! 

My 11.5c guess isn't looking quite as daft now! 

My 10.5C CET forecast guess is looking good now.

Glad i guessed 11.0C as it may well stop my total error incresing too much, and I may get to beat Caz. But the settled weather may change that yet!

  Over the past couple of weeks I've been thinking your guess forecast isn't far off the mark.  Now, I'm thinking you and I could be at equidistance from the mark!   Then we'll both be happy bunnies! 

I was 0.2C off the mark last time Caz. I reckon on the basis of GWs forecasts and estimates it maybe the same result again. It would be good to get a bang on target figure - you get a lot of points for that. Anyway. It's all good fun.

Indeed it is all good fun and it's a good job too otherwise I might as well give up this year!    I really wish you good luck but I'm starting to believe it could go higher and I won't complain if it does get up to 11c!  

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#158 Posted : 18 May 2012 23:01:50(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Caz Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Caz Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Caz Go to Quoted Post

Yes, a much warmer outlook and potential for the CET to see a significant rise between now and the month end.  Light at the end of the tunnel, so fingers crossed this comes off! 

My 11.5c guess isn't looking quite as daft now! 

My 10.5C CET forecast guess is looking good now.

  Over the past couple of weeks I've been thinking your guess forecast isn't far off the mark.  Now, I'm thinking you and I could be at equidistance from the mark!   Then we'll both be happy bunnies! 

I was 0.2C off the mark last time Caz. I reckon on the basis of GWs forecasts and estimates it maybe the same result again. It would be good to get a bang on target figure - you get a lot of points for that. Anyway. It's all good fun.

Indeed it is all good fun and it's a good job too otherwise I might as well give up this year!    I really wish you good luck but I'm starting to believe it could go higher and I won't complain if it does get up to 11c!  

Same here Caz - I hate the cold. The warmer it gets the better if you ask me.

 

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#159 Posted : 19 May 2012 07:57:14(UTC)
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I was hoping any warmth would wait until June. My brave CET forecast for May () might be sunk by a pesky warm spell right at the death.

I'd been hoping that a lot of the play-it-safe 'I'll go about average' wallers would be torpedoed this month. Damn.


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