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#2301 Posted : 14 May 2012 10:53:21(UTC)
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So congratulations to Man City, just catching up with it all, brings back memories of 1989!!

Been comparing the two, the end of this season with the final game of the season in May 1989 and it is pretty close for the drama.

I still think the Arsenal victory in May 1989 JUST shades it for me. The top two teams were going up against each other for it, Arsenal needing to win by 2 clear goals at Anfield to nick the title on goal diff and got the final goal in injury time.

Both great games though.

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#2302 Posted : 14 May 2012 10:53:52(UTC)
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Hard luck Man United ... if only they hadn't dropped two points at Anfield.....
If only......


Indeed and If Liverpool had won they would still be two points behind Everton



Really? Is that the best you can do??!!  must try harder! (.... I think I can live with what may be viewed, by our neighbours across Stanley Park, as a "success" by their standards) However ...... there IS a bit of a difference don't you think?  ....seventh and eighth, it matters not......not quite the same as the gap between first and second. Those two points United dropped at Anfield .. so important, and so satisfying!!   as indeed it must be to any club who took just a single point from them.

 

So you won the league for City???? Nothing to do with a 1-0 defeat at City? a 6-1 defeat at home to city or a 1-0 defeat away to Wigan....... It was Liverpool that won the league. Did you not take 2 points of city as well?

I think it matters a great deal Liverpool outspent Everton 5-1 and yet finished below Everton. Liverpool Where closer to Wolves than United and City....... If your taking comfort in the fact that Manchester City won the title and Manchester United came second only on goal difference (down to a 6-1 defeat) then that sums up the aims of the average Liverpool fan over recent seasons.

PS Manchester City followed by United will be favourites for the league next season. Liverpool won't make the top 6 again!

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#2303 Posted : 14 May 2012 10:56:40(UTC)
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I do fear for Liverpool, out of loyalty they will give King Kenny another year and as a result I can see another 2 or 3 teams moving ahead of them. I would not at all be surprised to see Liverpool finish in the bottom half next season if Kenny stays

Indeed, I can't see an end to Liverpool's title drought anytime soon, could be a long wait yet.

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#2304 Posted : 14 May 2012 10:57:00(UTC)
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Cant add much to whats been said so far. As a neutral it was a great season. First, City appearing to throw the title away in March going 8 points behind. I thought the defeat to Arsenal and Ballotelli's sending off in disgrace was the end of it. But suprisingly Man U threw it away themselves with the loss to Wigan and then the 4-4 with Everton.

A fitting finale yesterday, with City once again appearing to "bottle it". I felt so sorry for them and their supporters and in fact I was comiserating with a few of them in the pub yesterday as the 90 minutes ticked over. They were virtually in pieces and tears were flowing, only to be replaced with tears of joy moments later! Unbelievable and a perfect demonstration of why "the beautuful game" remains so popular all over the world

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#2305 Posted : 14 May 2012 11:10:44(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Larachmor Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Lazy Wind Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Larachmor Go to Quoted Post

Hard luck Man United ... if only they hadn't dropped two points at Anfield.....
If only......


Indeed and If Liverpool had won they would still be two points behind Everton



Really? Is that the best you can do??!!  must try harder! (.... I think I can live with what may be viewed, by our neighbours across Stanley Park, as a "success" by their standards) However ...... there IS a bit of a difference don't you think?  ....seventh and eighth, it matters not......not quite the same as the gap between first and second. Those two points United dropped at Anfield .. so important, and so satisfying!!   as indeed it must be to any club who took just a single point from them.

 

Latest odds for next season. A pretty fair reflection on how things presently stand, although I don't think the gap from Spurs to Liverpool is properly reflected.

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/winner

 

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#2306 Posted : 14 May 2012 11:13:14(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: SEMerc Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Larachmor Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Lazy Wind Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Larachmor Go to Quoted Post

Hard luck Man United ... if only they hadn't dropped two points at Anfield.....
If only......


Indeed and If Liverpool had won they would still be two points behind Everton



Really? Is that the best you can do??!!  must try harder! (.... I think I can live with what may be viewed, by our neighbours across Stanley Park, as a "success" by their standards) However ...... there IS a bit of a difference don't you think?  ....seventh and eighth, it matters not......not quite the same as the gap between first and second. Those two points United dropped at Anfield .. so important, and so satisfying!!   as indeed it must be to any club who took just a single point from them.

 

Latest odds for next season. A pretty fair reflection on how things presently stand, although I don't think the gap from Spurs to Liverpool is properly reflected.

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/winner

 

Blackpool are already in the PL again according to that site!

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#2307 Posted : 14 May 2012 11:17:44(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: NUT Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: SEMerc Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Larachmor Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Lazy Wind Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Larachmor Go to Quoted Post

Hard luck Man United ... if only they hadn't dropped two points at Anfield.....
If only......


Indeed and If Liverpool had won they would still be two points behind Everton



Really? Is that the best you can do??!!  must try harder! (.... I think I can live with what may be viewed, by our neighbours across Stanley Park, as a "success" by their standards) However ...... there IS a bit of a difference don't you think?  ....seventh and eighth, it matters not......not quite the same as the gap between first and second. Those two points United dropped at Anfield .. so important, and so satisfying!!   as indeed it must be to any club who took just a single point from them.

 

Latest odds for next season. A pretty fair reflection on how things presently stand, although I don't think the gap from Spurs to Liverpool is properly reflected.

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/winner

 

Blackpool are already in the PL again according to that site!

So are West Ham.

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#2308 Posted : 14 May 2012 11:57:21(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: SEMerc Go to Quoted Post
although I don't think the gap from Spurs to Liverpool is properly reflected.

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/winner

Early though innit? Liverpool might just get a quality manager in, who's given a major transfer kitty (NESV certainly have wedge). Given Citeh's resources, coupled with the investment that Scum-U will inevitably make, the potential for the crooked Russian to sink some more cash into Chelski and the possibility that Arsebne might open the chequebook, I don't think Liverpool have a cat in hell's chance of the Premier League title (even if they splashed £200m - there's just too much mediocrity to replace). They'd have to rely on all 4 clubs not clicking.

However, it wouldn't be impossible for them (with new manager, serious investment in players, and a huge dollop of luck) for them to finish in the top 3 and trigger an each-way win. Bet Fred are offering 50-1, so at 1/4 odds, a £100 stake would get you £1,350 back.

Would I take those odds?

No. Not a chance. But some people may think it worth a punt.


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#2309 Posted : 14 May 2012 12:28:32(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Saint Snow Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: SEMerc Go to Quoted Post
although I don't think the gap from Spurs to Liverpool is properly reflected.

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/winner

Early though innit? Liverpool might just get a quality manager in, who's given a major transfer kitty (NESV certainly have wedge). Given Citeh's resources, coupled with the investment that Scum-U will inevitably make, the potential for the crooked Russian to sink some more cash into Chelski and the possibility that Arsebne might open the chequebook, I don't think Liverpool have a cat in hell's chance of the Premier League title (even if they splashed £200m - there's just too much mediocrity to replace). They'd have to rely on all 4 clubs not clicking.

However, it wouldn't be impossible for them (with new manager, serious investment in players, and a huge dollop of luck) for them to finish in the top 3 and trigger an each-way win. Bet Fred are offering 50-1, so at 1/4 odds, a £100 stake would get you £1,350 back.

Would I take those odds?

No. Not a chance. But some people may think it worth a punt.

It certainly is early I agree. But I read somewhere (can't remember where) that the Americans are only going to cough up £20m in 'new cash' this summer, implying that major players are going to have to be sold to raise additional monies.

The big question, if this is true, is who do you offload and how much money you get for them. Shiteh and Unaaated are clearly going to spend as are Arsenal and the Russian crook. Even Levy will be putting his hands into his pockets. And if Uncle Joe helps along the way, as he has done in the past, that will prove more than useful.

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#2310 Posted : 14 May 2012 12:52:51(UTC)
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So congratulations to Man City, just catching up with it all, brings back memories of 1989!!

Been comparing the two, the end of this season with the final game of the season in May 1989 and it is pretty close for the drama.

I still think the Arsenal victory in May 1989 JUST shades it for me. The top two teams were going up against each other for it, Arsenal needing to win by 2 clear goals at Anfield to nick the title on goal diff and got the final goal in injury time.

Both great games though.

Agreed , that takes some beating

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#2311 Posted : 14 May 2012 13:14:52(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: SydneyonTees Go to Quoted Post

So congratulations to Man City, just catching up with it all, brings back memories of 1989!!

Been comparing the two, the end of this season with the final game of the season in May 1989 and it is pretty close for the drama.

I still think the Arsenal victory in May 1989 JUST shades it for me. The top two teams were going up against each other for it, Arsenal needing to win by 2 clear goals at Anfield to nick the title on goal diff and got the final goal in injury time.

Both great games though.

Agreed , that takes some beating

 

It never happened 


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#2312 Posted : 14 May 2012 15:35:25(UTC)
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It's only been 24 hours and I'm already bored shitless of hearing about Man City's "Special fans."
When a caller pulled the reporter to task on why they were deemed so, the reporter's response was "What you have to understand is these fans have been through thick and thin." Yes, because that doesn't apply to 99.9% of teams in the football leagues does it? Let alone the fact most have only ever known 'thin.' So who's more deserving?

I've nothing against Man City, but it's bollox like this that makes people hate clubs.
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Originally Posted by: Matty H Go to Quoted Post
It's only been 24 hours and I'm already bored shitless of hearing about Man City's "Special fans." When a caller pulled the reporter to task on why they were deemed so, the reporter's response was "What you have to understand is these fans have been through thick and thin." Yes, because that doesn't apply to 99.9% of teams in the football leagues does it? Let alone the fact most have only ever known 'thin.' So who's more deserving? I've nothing against Man City, but it's bollox like this that makes people hate clubs.

100% agree with you. there are plenty of clubs out there that have been through a lot worse than man city that's for sure. pleased for them, but some people just get caught up in the moment and simply lose it completely!

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Originally Posted by: Saint Snow Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Gooner Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: SydneyonTees Go to Quoted Post

So congratulations to Man City, just catching up with it all, brings back memories of 1989!!

Been comparing the two, the end of this season with the final game of the season in May 1989 and it is pretty close for the drama.

I still think the Arsenal victory in May 1989 JUST shades it for me. The top two teams were going up against each other for it, Arsenal needing to win by 2 clear goals at Anfield to nick the title on goal diff and got the final goal in injury time.

Both great games though.

Agreed , that takes some beating

 

It never happened 



I remember it only too well!! Liverpool's destiny was in their own hands when they were pipped by Michael Thomas's late goal. Whilst that was a true sickener, I don't think it was as hard to take as City's two late goals will have been for United fans. City's late comeback for me eclipses that of Arsenal. But (I can say it now 23 years later) that BOTH were quite incredible recoveries. But of course, whilst these may take the Premiership plaudits, they too are eclipsed in turn by Liverpool's recovery in Istanbul. But regardless of where your allegiances lay, these three games will remain to be those against whom future recoveries will be judged.

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#2315 Posted : 14 May 2012 16:40:28(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Matty H Go to Quoted Post
It's only been 24 hours and I'm already bored shitless of hearing about Man City's "Special fans." When a caller pulled the reporter to task on why they were deemed so, the reporter's response was "What you have to understand is these fans have been through thick and thin." Yes, because that doesn't apply to 99.9% of teams in the football leagues does it? Let alone the fact most have only ever known 'thin.' So who's more deserving? I've nothing against Man City, but it's bollox like this that makes people hate clubs.

There will be nothing really special about Man City either until they have won the title a couple of times since.

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#2316 Posted : 14 May 2012 16:44:10(UTC)
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I don't think it was as hard to take as City's two late goals will have been for United fans. 

IMO it would be more sickening, if City had won the title at a canter, leaving Utd behind by about 10 points.

As it was it was incredibly tight, a matter of who scored more goals, or conceded less. not really a matter of superiority. 

All to play for next season, as ever

 

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#2317 Posted : 14 May 2012 17:53:41(UTC)
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More good news. Gary Neville has signed up to the England coaching staff, which hopefully means his coma inducing monotone durge will disappear from Sky.

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Originally Posted by: Matty H Go to Quoted Post
It's only been 24 hours and I'm already bored shitless of hearing about Man City's "Special fans." When a caller pulled the reporter to task on why they were deemed so, the reporter's response was "What you have to understand is these fans have been through thick and thin." Yes, because that doesn't apply to 99.9% of teams in the football leagues does it? Let alone the fact most have only ever known 'thin.' So who's more deserving? I've nothing against Man City, but it's bollox like this that makes people hate clubs.

 

The biggest issue is that they've had to live in the shadow of their neighbours & bitter rivals. Playing second fiddle is 'orrible. Scum-U have always had the media kissing their arse, and recent hot streak of trophies came at a time when City lurched from one crisis to another. Don't forget that City have had more than their fair share of false dawns, too. I remember the Franny Lee consortium promising the moon on a stick, then delivering sod all. Later came that dodgy Shinawatara bloke. Sven was brought in, then bought about 20 players out of a catalogue. All this time, the Scum-U fans took the p*ss relentlessly.

Replace Man City with Bristol City, and Bristol Rovers with the Scum. Then say that your lean years aren't made that much more cruel.

Anyway, I was walking through Manchester city centre this evening and it was rammed, full of City fans with looks that could generally be described as "over the moon, but not quite believing it". I found myself walking to my car with a big smile on my face, having to stop myself going over to some to congratulate them - not only for winning, but the way they did it, letting the Scum-U fans think their team had nicked it, before nabbing 2 Fergietime goals to slash all over their rivals' heads


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Originally Posted by: Matty H Go to Quoted Post

More good news. Gary Neville has signed up to the England coaching staff, which hopefully means his coma inducing monotone durge will disappear from Sky.



Couldn't stand Gary Neville as a player ... well, he DID play for Man Utd!!! However, he has surprised me as a pundit on Sky. He has always been fair and impartial in his analysis of the games featured, and despite his Manchester drawl is much more preferable to the egotistical Andy Gray -always too full of his own importance. And of course, Neville was able to offer insight into the modern game that few others could.
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Originally Posted by: Matty H Go to Quoted Post
It's only been 24 hours and I'm already bored shitless of hearing about Man City's "Special fans." When a caller pulled the reporter to task on why they were deemed so, the reporter's response was "What you have to understand is these fans have been through thick and thin." Yes, because that doesn't apply to 99.9% of teams in the football leagues does it? Let alone the fact most have only ever known 'thin.' So who's more deserving? I've nothing against Man City, but it's bollox like this that makes people hate clubs.

 

The biggest issue is that they've had to live in the shadow of their neighbours & bitter rivals. Playing second fiddle is 'orrible. Scum-U have always had the media kissing their arse, and recent hot streak of trophies came at a time when City lurched from one crisis to another. Don't forget that City have had more than their fair share of false dawns, too. I remember the Franny Lee consortium promising the moon on a stick, then delivering sod all. Later came that dodgy Shinawatara bloke. Sven was brought in, then bought about 20 players out of a catalogue. All this time, the Scum-U fans took the p*ss relentlessly.

Replace Man City with Bristol City, and Bristol Rovers with the Scum. Then say that your lean years aren't made that much more cruel.

Anyway, I was walking through Manchester city centre this evening and it was rammed, full of City fans with looks that could generally be described as "over the moon, but not quite believing it". I found myself walking to my car with a big smile on my face, having to stop myself going over to some to congratulate them - not only for winning, but the way they did it, letting the Scum-U fans think their team had nicked it, before nabbing 2 Fergietime goals to slash all over their rivals' heads

Well that's the thing; Bristol Rovers have been below us for virtually the whole of time ever, so does that mean they are deserving of winning the Prem? You could argue Bolton deserve it because it's virtually Manchester. What about Stockport? Surely they are the real deserving winners of the Prem?

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