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#1 Posted : 01 May 2012 23:59:04(UTC)
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Indeed this could be on the way, arctic air will flood down the isobars courtesy of a Greenland high by the weekend, In scotland and the far north of england snow could get down to quite low levels at times, however the more remarkable situation comes with the slackening of the isobars as a slack ridge forms over the uk later trapping the cold arctic air over the uk. This would mean unseasonably cold nights with -4C perhaps widely in parts of the midlands in sheltered spots. With such low temperatures I think there is a decent chance of some records being broken for the coldest ever may temperature particualry in England and West Wales.

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#2 Posted : 02 May 2012 00:47:12(UTC)
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Agreed

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#3 Posted : 02 May 2012 03:29:47(UTC)
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I'll be looking forward to it

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#4 Posted : 02 May 2012 06:31:38(UTC)
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Since being at my current location the lowest May temps i have are as follows:

2011 -1.9c (Mean min for month 6.60c)

2010 -4.9c (mean min for month 3.92c)

2009 2.3c (mean min for month 6.5c)

 

So maybe the -4.9c could be under threat..

 

 

 

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#5 Posted : 02 May 2012 06:37:04(UTC)
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The record min for 6th May is only -5.6c (1980) so if GFS is right we could be in with a shout on Sunday. 

Coldest May temp was -9.4c on 4th May 1941 and I doubt we get close to that anywhere this weekend

Nearest I've come to recording a May air frost here was +0.3c on 11th May 2005.  At the moment I'm not expecting to see that record beaten.

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#6 Posted : 02 May 2012 09:55:22(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Essan Go to Quoted Post

Nearest I've come to recording a May air frost here was +0.3c on 11th May 2005.  At the moment I'm not expecting to see that record beaten.

Why not? I'd have thought an air frost is virtually certain in your location, looking at the output. 

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Winter 2012/2013 (to Feb 28) — Snow falling days: 17 (Dec 5, Jan 12, Jan 14, Jan 17-20, Jan 22-25, Feb 9, Feb 11, Feb 13, Feb 22-24). Snow lying days (at 9am): 10 (Dec 5, Jan 14, Jan 18-25). Max depth: 11cm (Jan 18, Jan 20). Min temperature -7.5C (Jan 22). Days with air frost 37 of 90 (DEC, 10; JAN, 13; FEB, 14). Ice days: 2 (Jan 18, Jan 20)
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#7 Posted : 02 May 2012 10:14:27(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Rob K Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Essan Go to Quoted Post

Nearest I've come to recording a May air frost here was +0.3c on 11th May 2005.  At the moment I'm not expecting to see that record beaten.

Why not? I'd have thought an air frost is virtually certain in your location, looking at the output. 

 

Look at the upper air temps & how slack the wind is I would say you have a chance of -2/-3 C sunday morning

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#8 Posted : 02 May 2012 10:16:40(UTC)
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Latest Met Office not showing anything particularly interesting temp wise for here just yet.

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#9 Posted : 02 May 2012 10:42:04(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: 101_North Go to Quoted Post

Latest Met Office not showing anything particularly interesting temp wise for here just yet.

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Looking at the charts Central and western areas look to be the worst affected, especially in the highlands of scotland, cumbria,west wales and the midlands among the favoured spots. Perhaps edinburough is too near the coast, and thus too exposed to the sea breeze.

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#10 Posted : 02 May 2012 10:53:27(UTC)
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I'm hoping not to go down that low; otherwise I might have to spend a fortune on fleece and cloches to make sure the veg and flowering clematis don't get damaged.

Nothing good about frosts at this time of year IMO.
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#11 Posted : 02 May 2012 11:08:23(UTC)
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Coldest May minimum I could find for here was -3.0ºC on May 5th 1996. It would be impressive if we could beat that here.
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#12 Posted : 02 May 2012 11:09:41(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: NickR Go to Quoted Post
I'm hoping not to go down that low; otherwise I might have to spend a fortune on fleece and cloches to make sure the veg and flowering clematis don't get damaged.

Nothing good about frosts at this time of year IMO.

Agreed - certainly not after the warmth of March brought everything on more quickly. A sharp frost could take out all of the apple blossom, which would be a disaster.

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#13 Posted : 02 May 2012 11:18:42(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Rob K Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Essan Go to Quoted Post

Nearest I've come to recording a May air frost here was +0.3c on 11th May 2005.  At the moment I'm not expecting to see that record beaten.

Why not? I'd have thought an air frost is virtually certain in your location, looking at the output. 



Pershore (Throckmorton airfield) might get one, but not here in town.  

MetO currently go for a Sunday Morning min of 3c.  Maybe see 1-2c?   May be a nice ground frost mind

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#14 Posted : 02 May 2012 11:20:39(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: NickR Go to Quoted Post
I'm hoping not to go down that low; otherwise I might have to spend a fortune on fleece and cloches to make sure the veg and flowering clematis don't get damaged.

Nothing good about frosts at this time of year IMO.

Agreed - certainly not after the warmth of March brought everything on more quickly. A sharp frost could take out all of the apple blossom, which would be a disaster.

Quite. The clematis (and we have a lot of them, very mature and younger) seem to have been in bud since then, just waiting for some wamrth/sun to finally flower a few now are out).

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#15 Posted : 02 May 2012 11:32:08(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: NickR Go to Quoted Post
I'm hoping not to go down that low; otherwise I might have to spend a fortune on fleece and cloches to make sure the veg and flowering clematis don't get damaged.

Nothing good about frosts at this time of year IMO.

Agreed - certainly not after the warmth of March brought everything on more quickly. A sharp frost could take out all of the apple blossom, which would be a disaster.

That has already happened here in mid April - the prune and cherry blossom too. Same as in 2010 when the record low max was set in the first week of May.

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It only 2 years ago when I recorded -3.9C that damaged our vine leaves and never recovered fully in the summer despite a warm/hot first half.  From -3.9C on the 12th May morning to 32.2C was logged on the 23rd May.  That give a huge monthly diurnal range of 36.1C.

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#17 Posted : 02 May 2012 12:09:28(UTC)
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Never had a frost-free May:  Lowest was -5.4 (18.5.05)

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#18 Posted : 02 May 2012 13:13:45(UTC)
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Keep tabs on this.

 

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#19 Posted : 02 May 2012 15:01:39(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Jiries Go to Quoted Post

It only 2 years ago when I recorded -3.9C that damaged our vine leaves and never recovered fully in the summer despite a warm/hot first half.  From -3.9C on the 12th May morning to 32.2C was logged on the 23rd May.  That give a huge monthly diurnal range of 36.1C.



That had brought out the OCD in me, doesn't that highlighted word mean a 24 hour period (I got caught out with that one myself)? Still an amazing temperature range all the same, though.

Anyway, ta for the heads up, Quatum. Have informed my gardener friends (and I know of a few from my farmer days) although I think here at Kent we may escape the frost due to our peninsula-type land mass and how it is likely to stay cloudy over the weekend and into the Bank Holiday Monday in any case. Might scrape a grass frost inland if skies does remain clear for long enough on Sunday night but that's really my own take on things.

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#20 Posted : 02 May 2012 16:00:04(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: NickR Go to Quoted Post
I'm hoping not to go down that low; otherwise I might have to spend a fortune on fleece and cloches to make sure the veg and flowering clematis don't get damaged.

Nothing good about frosts at this time of year IMO.

From a gardeners perspective I can see how frosts in May would be bad..

But since I'm not a gardener I'm just going to be completely selfish.

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