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#1 Posted : 28 April 2012 00:21:06(UTC)
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#2 Posted : 28 April 2012 05:10:38(UTC)
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If you like warm weather then dont look at this mornings GFS! its a winter feast.

If GFS varifies we could be looking at an usually cold start to May with widespread frosts and wintry showers in the north, the Scottish Mountains would have a bumper skiing Bank Holiday weekend.

I havent seem snow in May since 1979 but that could change next week.

Its early days but *****C. could really be on to something.

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#3 Posted : 28 April 2012 07:45:34(UTC)
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Yes, I can't remember the last times saws now falling in May. Based on the last few days of model output, I would not rule it out this year. Either way it certainly looks chilly for the time of year. The good news is it looks less unsettled than recently.
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#4 Posted : 28 April 2012 08:20:56(UTC)
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Agree that it looks cool/cold for the foreseeable after a brief warm up midweek. From a southern perspective it could be a continuation of wet though. Slack or low pressure and cold uppers in May usually means one thing

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#5 Posted : 28 April 2012 08:27:51(UTC)
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Andy, Doc, didn't you guys get snow in May 1997?

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#6 Posted : 28 April 2012 08:38:41(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Gavin P Go to Quoted Post

Andy, Doc, didn't you guys get snow in May 1997?


Was it not May 96?
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#7 Posted : 28 April 2012 08:40:16(UTC)
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Am going to stick by my May CET prediction, but have to admit it's looking decidedly dodgy for the forseeable!

Can only hope that the second half of May perks up because it's looking absolutely shocking and horrendous for the next 7-10 days. Wet and cold throughout.

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#8 Posted : 28 April 2012 08:43:35(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Solar Cycles Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Gavin P Go to Quoted Post

Andy, Doc, didn't you guys get snow in May 1997?

Was it not May 96?

No, May 1997. Check out Mr D's thread;

http://theweatheroutlook.com/twocommunity/yaf_postst7173_Early-May-1997--What-a-change.aspx

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#9 Posted : 28 April 2012 08:43:42(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Gavin P Go to Quoted Post

Andy, Doc, didn't you guys get snow in May 1997?



I don't think so Gavin (although it could be that I have forgotten).

The t850 ensemble data really are cool up here aren't they...

http://www.wetterzentral...cs/MT8_Aberdeen_ens.png

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#10 Posted : 28 April 2012 08:45:33(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: doctormog Go to Quoted Post
Yes, I can't remember the last times saws now falling in May. Based on the last few days of model output, I would not rule it out this year. Either way it certainly looks chilly for the time of year. The good news is it looks less unsettled than recently.

The one and only time that I have seen snow falling here during the month of May was in 1995 during a very cold northerly blast. The upshot of that though was the summer that followed is the best one I can remember.

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#11 Posted : 28 April 2012 09:11:52(UTC)
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I remember a June back in the early 60's  Pretty sure it was snow and not hail

As more or less said usually the case you get a cracking summer after weather like this. Bet the water companies are loving this weather

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#12 Posted : 28 April 2012 09:17:06(UTC)
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Looks like the pattern of recent weeks wants to repeat, but with the trough centered further east than last time, giving cool but not so wet conditions.

Things do look to soon become rather complicated, though, as low pressure in the Atlantic moves towards the UK while tracking a long way south in order to get under the Greenland High. Does it then merge with troughing to our east, form a soup of weak troughs over the UK, or become dominant to our SW?

 

I looked at last night's 12z 'CFS daily' and saw that blocking to the north was strong until 29th May. It extended to our NE at times but never let go of Greenland for more than the odd day. Conditions were changeable throughout the month, at times very unsettled - but never on the scale of recent times.

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#13 Posted : 28 April 2012 09:37:08(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Sevendust Go to Quoted Post

Agree that it looks cool/cold for the foreseeable after a brief warm up midweek. From a southern perspective it could be a continuation of wet though. Slack or low pressure and cold uppers in May usually means one thing

Thats my thinking Dave as the trough pushes over us after 144hs.

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/brack2a.gif

Wet on Tuesday for some parts.

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#14 Posted : 28 April 2012 10:05:20(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Gavin P Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Solar Cycles Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Gavin P Go to Quoted Post

Andy, Doc, didn't you guys get snow in May 1997?

Was it not May 96?

No, May 1997. Check out Mr D's thread;

http://theweatheroutlook.com/twocommunity/yaf_postst7173_Early-May-1997--What-a-change.aspx

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#15 Posted : 28 April 2012 10:25:42(UTC)
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I'm not an expert of those synoptic b&w charts, but would I be right to say that areas sitting under the waving occluded front would see continuous rainfall, whilst further north and south would expect heavy showers?

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#16 Posted : 28 April 2012 10:39:32(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: briggsy6 Go to Quoted Post

I'm not an expert of those synoptic b&w charts, but would I be right to say that areas sitting under the waving occluded front would see continuous rainfall, whilst further north and south would expect heavy showers?



Yes, I think so.

The 06z GFS op run continues the cold teme in a week's time

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn1742.png
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#17 Posted : 28 April 2012 12:46:38(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: David M Porter Go to Quoted Post

The one and only time that I have seen snow falling here during the month of May was in 1995 during a very cold northerly blast. The upshot of that though was the summer that followed is the best one I can remember.

Yes remember it well, I was starting a new job that day. As I recall there was about 6" of snow up towards Lanark. As you say the summer that followed was a classic: 30c in Glasgow in June.

On topic, next weekend is possibly looking as chilly if not possibly chillier than this one: currently 8c here despite near uninterrupted sunshine.

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#18 Posted : 28 April 2012 12:49:33(UTC)
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I'd say there's a fair chance of higher altitudes seeing wintry ppn next weekend according to the latest output.
I'm in the Brecons camping on Saturday night - at 940ft.

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#19 Posted : 28 April 2012 15:45:06(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Gavin P Go to Quoted Post

Andy, Doc, didn't you guys get snow in May 1997?



Hi Gavin, no not in may 1997 although it fell down to 1000feet on the fells.

We had some sleet in may 1993 but it's 1979 since we have seen proper snow.

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#20 Posted : 28 April 2012 16:30:38(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Andy Woodcock Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Gavin P Go to Quoted Post

Andy, Doc, didn't you guys get snow in May 1997?

Hi Gavin, no not in may 1997 although it fell down to 1000feet on the fells. We had some sleet in may 1993 but it's 1979 since we have seen proper snow. Andy

Andy, in May 1997 there was snow at relatively low levels in West Cumbria.  Cars had a dusting of it one morning in Whitehaven when I was going to work.

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