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#1 Posted : 12 April 2012 07:29:51(UTC)
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As many will have noticed over the last few days there have been some very heavy showers evident during the afternoon  period, with some locally torrential downpours with hail and even some scattered thunderstorms as well.  In a previous blog I placed some emphasis on how atmospheric soundings can be used to gauge cloud amounts in anticyclonic (high pressure) conditions.  Well, equally and also very importantly, atmospheric soundings come into their own during times of instability and particularly between the months of April and September...

The aim of this particular blog is to shed some light on how atmospheric soundings, which are freely available on the internet, can be used to highlight the risk of instability which can lead to heavy showers and thunderstorms in the coming weeks and months in particular. 

The first image of interest here is an atmospheric sounding from Leeds at 1600BST on Wednesday 11th April.  I have used this particular sounding as it was one of the best to highlight instability.  Now as a quick recap, the red line represents the air temperature up through the atmosphere, whilst the blue line is the dew point temperature.  Now when the air becomes unstable, on these particular charts, an additional line appears and in this instance this is the dotted line I have highlighted within the image.  In essence what this line represents is that it signifies that the air mass is unstable and that the air can freely rise.  Clearly when air rises it brings the development of clouds and if the air can rise enough it can lead to significant cloud development with large towering cumulus clouds and cumulonimbus clouds (thunder clouds). 

The next image, highlights more specific and important features; 

The image should highlight and explain some of the primary features that are of interest.  I have overlaid the picture of a cumulonimbus cloud which places emphasis on the level of instability present within this atmospheric sounding and that with clouds potentially rising up to 24,000ft easily leads to the development of cumulonimbus clouds and hence, intense and perhaps thundery downpours at  the surface.

Now moving on to take a look at one primary important variable and that is CAPE.  This stands of Convective Available Potential Energy and is a measure of the instability present within the atmosphere.  CAPE is derived from the space present between the temperature line (red line) and the dotted line I have highlighted on the images.  The larger this space the greater the CAPE value is and hence the greater the instability also is.  You will note that on this specific image the CAPE value is provided at the top beneath the date and time.  In this instance the CAPE value is 394j/kg (joules per kilogram), which is a reasonable amount of CAPE.  

As a general rule of thumb from a UK point of view the following should give an indication as to the risk of heavy and perhaps thundery downpours; 

CAPE VALUES: 

100-300 = Marginally unstable, risk of some heavy showers, but thunderstorms generally isolated or scattered.

300-600 = Moderately unstable, heavy showers/downpours a distinct possibility, thunderstorms also probable.

600-900 = Highly unstable, heavy showers, downpours and thunderstorms a significant likelihood. 

>900-1000 = Extremely unstable, torrential, thundery downpours a high probability, risk of severe convective weather. 

CAPE values are a changing variable and for example across parts of the USA CAPE values can reach and exceed 2500j/kg, which is clearly an extreme level of instability and because of many variables those kinds of values are never achieved in the UK.  But from a UK's perspective the above values should give a reasonable indication as to the level of instability that is forecast. 

So, in summary, if you hear that thunderstorms are forecast and see atmospheric soundings similar to the ones used within this blog, along with large CAPE values then envisage the risk of heavy and perhaps thundery downpours.  The forecast soundings used within this blog can be found at the following website; 

http://rasp.inn.leedsmet.ac.uk/RASPtable.html

Regards to all, 

M.

NB: I did a post on TWO a number of years ago with some additional information on convective variables, perhaps the link to this post is still active somewhere and can be added to this thread as an additional source of information...

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#2 Posted : 12 April 2012 07:58:10(UTC)
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And that is the lesson for today.

Thanks for putting together what is a very useful and informative thread while at the same time not dazzling me too much with sciences. Good work.


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#3 Posted : 12 April 2012 08:01:12(UTC)
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Great post - that's really helpful.

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#4 Posted : 12 April 2012 08:04:30(UTC)
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Thanks Matt - interesting post

I do remember your thread (quite a while back) on variables used in connection with rising air masses and perhaps someone will have kept a copy as it will have been deleted from here long ago

If I remember, this one is similar

http://www.ukweatherworld.co.uk/plotter/gfshelp.htm

Also for interest in looking up real values against your definitions and ranges, this is useful

http://www.netweather.tv/index.cgi?action=stormforecast;type=range;page=1;sess=

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#5 Posted : 12 April 2012 08:06:38(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: lanky Go to Quoted Post

Thanks Matt - interesting post

I do remember your thread (quite a while back) on variables used in connection with rising air masses and perhaps someone will have kept a copy as it will have been deleted from here long ago



What, this one?

http://theweatheroutlook...-Thread-Information.aspx

Just to echo other's comments, that is a very helpful and informative post Matt. :)

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#6 Posted : 12 April 2012 08:54:34(UTC)
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Cheers Matt.

I understand soundings alittle more than I use to.


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#7 Posted : 12 April 2012 10:09:07(UTC)
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Excellent explanation - Cheers Matt

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#8 Posted : 12 April 2012 10:33:32(UTC)
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Thanks Matt. Always very informative reading.

 

I noticed on the evening of 10th April east of Bristol we had some towering cumulo-nimbus clouds with pefectly flat tops - but not anvil shaped - perhaps illustrating this very well.

 

Rob

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#9 Posted : 12 April 2012 11:26:41(UTC)
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Matt,

 

Thanks very much for this very useful post.

 

Just one thing - the Netweather link above also mentions Lifted Index which should be used along with CAPE when looking at storm risk.

 

What sort of negative values can we relate to slight risk, meduim risk and high risk that the CAPE will be 'tapped into'?

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#10 Posted : 12 April 2012 12:58:24(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Jim_AFCB Go to Quoted Post

Matt,

 

Thanks very much for this very useful post.

 

Just one thing - the Netweather link above also mentions Lifted Index which should be used along with CAPE when looking at storm risk.

 

What sort of negative values can we relate to slight risk, meduim risk and high risk that the CAPE will be 'tapped into'?

Yeah LI is another important variable and you'll often find CAPE and LI plotted together on forecast charts, like is freely available on many sites which uses the GFS model for example...

The general range is far less than with CAPE, but generally -1 or -2 values would indicate slight instability and relate to the 100-300j/kg of CAPE.

-2 to -4 values would signal a far more unstable atmospheric profile and again would relate to the 300j/kg to 600k/jg of CAPE approx. 

Generally within the UK anything less than -5 or -6 is extreme and would no doubt tally to a significant amount of CAPE (probably >1000j/kg). Because both LI and CAPE are not really set variables and figures it is difficult to say specifically because other factors can come in to the equation as well, but i'd say the above would tally quite well as a general rule of thumb.

Regards to all, 

M.

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#11 Posted : 12 April 2012 16:24:23(UTC)
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Thanks for taking the time to post this Matt, a great help to someone like me.

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#12 Posted : 12 April 2012 18:52:38(UTC)
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I'm pretty sure I remember the LI reaching -6 here in April 2008. The resulting weather was showery, with those showers tuned up to an impressive level - yet little of thundery nature was observed IIRC. Mostly I just remember shedloads of hail.

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#13 Posted : 21 April 2012 06:46:40(UTC)
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It would be a shame to lose this valuable info. any chance of it being moved to the library please?  

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#14 Posted : 21 April 2012 07:13:32(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: beaufort Go to Quoted Post

It would be a shame to lose this valuable info. any chance of it being moved to the library please?  

Agreed - I'm using these every day now

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#15 Posted : 22 April 2012 17:17:40(UTC)
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Yes, I'll move it to the library next time it drops off the main page

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#16 Posted : 23 April 2012 15:14:28(UTC)
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Yes, I'll move it to the library next time it drops off the main page

Thanks Chrissie

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#17 Posted : 23 April 2012 19:42:32(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Sevendust Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Marigold Go to Quoted Post

Yes, I'll move it to the library next time it drops off the main page

Thanks Chrissie

Hopefully it may be useful this weekend

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