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#361 Posted : 26 March 2012 16:34:25(UTC)
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There was a huge fire in the Ashdown Forest yesterday,some as you might have seen it on the news depending where you are .

 

We take that route across the forest regularly during the summer, this was the first time this year and its very dry.

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#362 Posted : 26 March 2012 16:47:02(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: patricia Go to Quoted Post

There was a huge fire in the Ashdown Forest yesterday,some as you might have seen it on the news depending where you are .

 

We take that route across the forest regularly during the summer, this was the first time this year and its very dry.

There are moor fires in north west Scotland too, it's been dry there as well.

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#363 Posted : 26 March 2012 17:26:20(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Caz Go to Quoted Post

Although we've had drought in previous years, modern lifestyle and population numbers mean the lack of rain now affects us more.  Our demand for water is greater now than it was even in the dry years of the 70's and when we do get rain, more of it runs off into drains rather than soaking into the ground and topping up the water table because we've covered so much ground with concrete and tarmac.

Indeed - very much what I've been emphasising recently. It doesn't take a big reduction in rainfall to cause problems nowadays

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#364 Posted : 26 March 2012 17:30:07(UTC)
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The characteristic unpleasant smell of the mud and muck at the bottom of a very low river was lightly in evidence (in one or two spots) in Bewdley today. It's quite often around in August, but I don't think I've ever smelt it in March before. There'd be hardly any water left if the next three months were as dry as the last three...

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#365 Posted : 26 March 2012 18:55:55(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Sevendust Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Caz Go to Quoted Post

Although we've had drought in previous years, modern lifestyle and population numbers mean the lack of rain now affects us more.  Our demand for water is greater now than it was even in the dry years of the 70's and when we do get rain, more of it runs off into drains rather than soaking into the ground and topping up the water table because we've covered so much ground with concrete and tarmac.

Indeed - very much what I've been emphasising recently. It doesn't take a big reduction in rainfall to cause problems nowadays

In the mid 80's I did a study on the local sewers because raw sewage was discharging into the local river whenever we had heavy rain.  Our sewage works was built in 1901 to take an effluent flow (DWF = Dry Weather Flow) of our village plus rainwater run-off from storms up to a capacity that occurred only once in a hundred years.  So theoretically, the discharge into the river should have only occurred once in a hundred years, yet it was happening several times a year due to the increased effluent volume.

I looked at our local urban growth over a thirty year period and lifestyle changes, comparing the number of households, roadways, population etc with what we had in the fifties plus changes in water usage.  I can't remember my exact findings - my paper's up in the loft somewhere and I'm tempted to go find it, but the most notable change was our increase in water usage per household, mainly due to the use of automatic washing machines, modern bathrooms etc. 

When I was young, a lot of houses here didn't have bathrooms, they had a tin bath that came out on a Sunday night and all the kids got bathed in the same six inches of water.  Most houses only had an outside loo, so a guzzunder was used at night and was emptied in the morning.  We heated water with a coal fire and back boiler, so hot water was used sparingly.  Monday was washday, when all the family wash got done, whites first then darker colours, but all in the same water.  Now, I have two bathrooms and three loos, my water is heated by a combi boiler that churns out as much hot water as I want and whenever I want it.  I have an automatic washing machine that I put on most days. 

How things have changed and how our demand for water has increased! 

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#366 Posted : 26 March 2012 19:57:44(UTC)
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We aren't the only people suffering a drought

http://droughtmonitor.unl.edu/

Might be interesting to see some similar figures for the rest of the Northern Hemisphere.

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#367 Posted : 26 March 2012 20:46:18(UTC)

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This is the latest Drought Monitor for a period of 24 months

 

This is the period of 6 months

http://drought.mssl.ucl.ac.uk/drought.html?map=%2Fwww%2Fdrought%2Fweb_pages%2Fdrought.map&program=%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmapserv&root=%2Fwww%2Fdrought2%2F&map_web_imagepath=%2Ftmp%2F&map_web_imageurl=%2Ftmp%2F&map_web_template=%2Fdrought.html

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#368 Posted : 27 March 2012 12:01:57(UTC)
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That 24 month view Gavin, has a total number of people affected by exceptional drought as 44,330,000!!!

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#369 Posted : 27 March 2012 16:58:49(UTC)

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Originally Posted by: kmoorman Go to Quoted Post

That 24 month view Gavin, has a total number of people affected by exceptional drought as 44,330,000!!!

I know if this is to be proved correct the drought is going to get worse in 2013 instead of better, this could be a long and severe drought for many

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#370 Posted : 27 March 2012 17:10:20(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Gavin D Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: kmoorman Go to Quoted Post

That 24 month view Gavin, has a total number of people affected by exceptional drought as 44,330,000!!!

I know if this is to be proved correct the drought is going to get worse in 2013 instead of better, this could be a long and severe drought for many

and we might have the wettest summer or autumn since 1066 .

 

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#371 Posted : 27 March 2012 17:29:07(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Gavin D Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: kmoorman Go to Quoted Post

That 24 month view Gavin, has a total number of people affected by exceptional drought as 44,330,000!!!

I know if this is to be proved correct the drought is going to get worse in 2013 instead of better, this could be a long and severe drought for many

In case you didn't realise, that's the 24 months ending March 2012. It's not a forecast.

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Winter 2012/2013 (to Feb 28) — Snow falling days: 17 (Dec 5, Jan 12, Jan 14, Jan 17-20, Jan 22-25, Feb 9, Feb 11, Feb 13, Feb 22-24). Snow lying days (at 9am): 10 (Dec 5, Jan 14, Jan 18-25). Max depth: 11cm (Jan 18, Jan 20). Min temperature -7.5C (Jan 22). Days with air frost 37 of 90 (DEC, 10; JAN, 13; FEB, 14). Ice days: 2 (Jan 18, Jan 20)
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#372 Posted : 27 March 2012 18:42:34(UTC)

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Originally Posted by: Rob K Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Gavin D Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: kmoorman Go to Quoted Post

That 24 month view Gavin, has a total number of people affected by exceptional drought as 44,330,000!!!

I know if this is to be proved correct the drought is going to get worse in 2013 instead of better, this could be a long and severe drought for many

In case you didn't realise, that's the 24 months ending March 2012. It's not a forecast.

Ah right thanks for that

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#373 Posted : 27 March 2012 18:44:10(UTC)
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12.4mm in the last 36 days here.

Spring 2013 (1 March - 16 May)

Highest Maximum: 20.5C (on the 5th May)
Lowest Minimum: -6.5C (on the 11th Mar)

No. of snowfall days: 22
No. of air frosts: 27
No. of days with measurable rainfall: 23
Total rainfall: 67.7mm

March mean temp: 1.85C (-3.05C) (compared to 81-10 average)
March mean max temp: 4.53C (-4.27C)
April mean temp: 6.30C (-0.65C)
April mean max temp: 10.19C (-1.01C)
May mean temp: 9.20C (-0.25C)
May mean max temp: 13.51C (-0.49C)
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#374 Posted : 27 March 2012 18:48:00(UTC)

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Originally Posted by: howham Go to Quoted Post

12.4mm in the last 36 days here.

We've had no rain in Darlington since the 17th, and just 17.1mm in the past 2 months

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#375 Posted : 28 March 2012 08:06:15(UTC)

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Parts Of Yorkshire in Drought

Drought has spread in England, with parts of East and South Yorkshire now officially affected.

The Environment Agency said public water supplies should not be affected, but lower river and groundwater levels meant businesses and farmers taking water from rivers should use it wisely.

The agency has already declared drought in areas of the South East and East Anglia.

Seven water companies in those areas are to impose hosepipe bans on 5 April.

Yorkshire Water said it did not anticipate any restrictions such as hosepipe bans for the time being.

Drought has spread in England, with parts of East and South Yorkshire now officially affected.

The Environment Agency said public water supplies should not be affected, but lower river and groundwater levels meant businesses and farmers taking water from rivers should use it wisely.

The agency has already declared drought in areas of the South East and East Anglia.

Seven water companies in those areas are to impose hosepipe bans on 5 April.

Yorkshire Water said it did not anticipate any restrictions such as hosepipe bans for the time being.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17533235

 

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#376 Posted : 28 March 2012 08:15:11(UTC)
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I don`t think that drought monitor map is very accurate. The first map shows Northwest England as far north as Lancashire, and most of Wales as badly affected by drought as the Southeast.


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#377 Posted : 28 March 2012 10:00:42(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: bradders Go to Quoted Post

I don`t think that drought monitor map is very accurate. The first map shows Northwest England as far north as Lancashire, and most of Wales as badly affected by drought as the Southeast.

Only if you look at the longer term measures (>24months). The previous winter (2010->2011) was quite dry in Wales. I think the "summer" made up some of the difference and this winter wasn't nearly as dry. Also I think the drought monitor map shows "relative drought" ie although Wales has recorded more inches of rain it's still received less than "normal" (for Wales, remembering of course that it is still Wales thus wet compared to SE England) and hence shows up as having a "drought".

The PDFs here are worth looking at and also show how Wales hasn't been as wet as "normal" nor as wet as further north.

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#378 Posted : 28 March 2012 10:40:20(UTC)
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@ Ulric; http://wxmaps.org/pix/clim.html gives soil moisture maps for across the Globe.

Benfield Hazard maps are of cumulative rainfall deficit, hence the differences in the time period.
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#379 Posted : 28 March 2012 10:46:52(UTC)
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 http://newsthump.com/2012/03/28/nasa-spacecraft-finds-evidence-of-water-in-south-east-england/B

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#380 Posted : 29 March 2012 07:47:00(UTC)
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8.85mm this month

The driest month i have ever recorded since 1988

Last March almost as dry at 13.75mm

Dry spring = wet summer??

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