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#61 Posted : 20 December 2010 23:34:43(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East Go to Quoted Post
Latest ComRes poll has Labour still narrowly ahead. Only 38% think Dave is a good leader. Basically only Tory voters! Rather pathetic and unheard of for a PM who has only just been elected.

Think you may have drawn the wrong conclusion, I'd imagine theres a fair size of the Tory faithful who don't think Dave is a good leader!

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#62 Posted : 22 December 2010 18:43:39(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East Go to Quoted Post
Latest ComRes poll has Labour still narrowly ahead. Only 38% think Dave is a good leader. Basically only Tory voters! Rather pathetic and unheard of for a PM who has only just been elected.

Well as has often been said he wasn't actually elected as prime minister, so it would be something of a surprise to find his ratings higher. There was no honeymoon period economically either, and unlike Blair and Thatcher he didn't come in on the back of huge public support.

The surprise to me is that Milliband has made very little electorally of being the new kid on the block given that he can sit back and snipe with impunity.

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#63 Posted : 23 December 2010 22:53:55(UTC)
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Final poll of 2010:

YouGov/News International

Con 39% Lab 41% Lib-Dem 9% Lab Lead 2%

Rural West Northants 120m asl

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#64 Posted : 24 December 2010 00:13:59(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Gavin P Go to Quoted Post

Final poll of 2010:

YouGov/News International

Con 39% Lab 41% Lib-Dem 9% Lab Lead 2%

Dreadful poll ratings for the LDs, but a delicious irony that their beloved coalition government, or 'new politics', is killing them

As for the Tories, they're still holding onto the support of blind loyalists like Simon , but really it's a poor show to be trailing the opposition after only 6 months, especially an opposition who have been leaderless to date and recently booted out of office .

 

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#65 Posted : 27 December 2010 15:53:26(UTC)
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More bad news for those lovers of coalition poliitcs. It appears that after only 6 months more people think coalition government is the wrong thing for the UK than think it the right thing :

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/dec/26/coalition-government-support-dramatically-down

Wonder what those figures will be like once the spending cuts bite and the self interest coalition falls apart

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#66 Posted : 27 December 2010 17:50:02(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Martyn Go to Quoted Post

More bad news for those lovers of coalition poliitcs. It appears that after only 6 months more people think coalition government is the wrong thing for the UK than think it the right thing :

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/dec/26/coalition-government-support-dramatically-down

Wonder what those figures will be like once the spending cuts bite and the self interest coalition falls apart

Calm down Tory boy or should that be Labour boy!


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#67 Posted : 28 December 2010 23:02:19(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Martyn Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Gavin P Go to Quoted Post

Final poll of 2010:

YouGov/News International

Con 39% Lab 41% Lib-Dem 9% Lab Lead 2%

Dreadful poll ratings for the LDs, but a delicious irony that their beloved coalition government, or 'new politics', is killing them

As for the Tories, they're still holding onto the support of blind loyalists like Simon , but really it's a poor show to be trailing the opposition after only 6 months, especially an opposition who have been leaderless to date and recently booted out of office .

 

Given the unrelenting tide of misery and bad news that we've had since the new government took over, frankly I'm surprised the Labour lead isn't bigger.

For the Tories everything depends on two things;

1. Can they get the economy going and in a decent state by 2014/2015?

2. Will the next year or two be as bad as people are expecting?

These two issues will really determine whether the Conservatives can improve in 2015.

Obviously Labour, being out of power, are reliant on events and can't really influence the way things play out. They do need to do a couple of things though;

1. They have to get their economic credability back.

2. They have to be careful that by opposing every single cut the government makes, they don't take eventually damage their credability should the economy improve. Of course opposing all the decisions the government is taking is smart politics at this stage and if the economy goes from bad to worse it'll pay dividends. But there is a danger Labour will be left with nothing to say if the economy improves.

As far as the Lib-Dems go, I'm not sure what I can say about them to be honest.

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#68 Posted : 28 December 2010 23:38:59(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Martyn Go to Quoted Post

As for the Tories, they're still holding onto the support of blind loyalists like Simon  

A pathetic, misrepresentation (assuming you mean me).

If you've been paying any sort of attention you'd know that I'm loyal to no party.

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#69 Posted : 04 January 2011 22:48:43(UTC)
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First poll of 2011:

YouGov/News International

Con 40% Lab 42% Lib-Dem 8% Lab Lead 2%

Rural West Northants 120m asl

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#70 Posted : 04 January 2011 22:50:14(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Gavin P Go to Quoted Post

First poll of 2011:

YouGov/News International

Con 40% Lab 42% Lib-Dem 8% Lab Lead 2%

 It would seem the Lib-Dem share of the vote is close to stabilising.

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#71 Posted : 04 January 2011 22:55:50(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Gavin P Go to Quoted Post

First poll of 2011:

YouGov/News International

Con 40% Lab 42% Lib-Dem 8% Lab Lead 2%

 It would seem the Lib-Dem share of the vote is close to stabilising.

You tend to find that with temperatures as you venture out into deep space too.

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#72 Posted : 04 January 2011 23:34:31(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Gavin P Go to Quoted Post

First poll of 2011:

YouGov/News International

Con 40% Lab 42% Lib-Dem 8% Lab Lead 2%

 It would seem the Lib-Dem share of the vote is close to stabilising.

I suppose its a bit like when the temp in the UK gets down to -20c and just will not drop any further. It reaches a point where it can't go any lower.

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#73 Posted : 04 January 2011 23:55:44(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Martyn Go to Quoted Post

As for the Tories, they're still holding onto the support of blind loyalists like Simon  

A pathetic, misrepresentation (assuming you mean me).

If you've been paying any sort of attention you'd know that I'm loyal to no party.

Well it was meant in humour Simon

Actually I recall early opposition to the coalition being criticised by yourself as in some way inappropriate. Perhaps you're loyal to the coalition as the country's only hope (which I took from your posts), rather than to one party.

 I'm not trying to mis-represent you, but that's what I took from some of your early post election comments

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#74 Posted : 05 January 2011 00:35:16(UTC)
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Just think how well Labour would be doing if they actually had a leader....


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#75 Posted : 05 January 2011 07:37:58(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Martyn Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Super Cell Go to Quoted Post

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As for the Tories, they're still holding onto the support of blind loyalists like Simon  

A pathetic, misrepresentation (assuming you mean me).

If you've been paying any sort of attention you'd know that I'm loyal to no party.

Well it was meant in humour Simon

Actually I recall early opposition to the coalition being criticised by yourself as in some way inappropriate. Perhaps you're loyal to the coalition as the country's only hope (which I took from your posts), rather than to one party.

 I'm not trying to mis-represent you, but that's what I took from some of your early post election comments

I always said that what I actually want is a stable, successful, government. And I even uttered the immortal line that if Brown getting back in provided that then so be it.

I don't want any government to fail its citizens (as much as a government can ever look after ALL of us) because of my political prejudices.

I know it doesn't sit well on here sometimes, but for me it really is a case of living on a day to day basis, trying not to worry too much and giving my job and my life all I can without giving too much of a damn what Cameron, Clegg and Milliband do. It's all the same dance with different directors.

I accept that approach only works to an extent, but I would never wish a government to fail. Quite the opposite - regardless of its colour (or blend) stability is the key, for me.

Thus I want the coalition to have a good run at it. If it fails it fails. But there isn't a single party out there that would win an election outright just now, and Labour could hardly double up with the Lib Dems now, so from my perspective what we have is realistically what the electorate provided us with, all be it that they didn't vote for it directly (they couldn't!), and an election wouldn't change anything except it might introduce instability and uncertainty.

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#76 Posted : 05 January 2011 07:45:36(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Saint Snow Go to Quoted Post

Just think how well Labour would be doing if they actually had a leader....

I told you so.  Labour have a proven winner (and all-round nasty guy which is a good quality in a politician) who'd be capable of taking on DC. He's called Lord Mandelson. The problem Labour now have again (Blair stopped this temporarily it would seem) is they are more interested in pontificating among themselves than grabbing power. The natural order in British politics looks like being resumed in the next few years, with the Tories looking like the more potent political force.

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#77 Posted : 05 January 2011 08:09:26(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Martyn Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Super Cell Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Martyn Go to Quoted Post

As for the Tories, they're still holding onto the support of blind loyalists like Simon  

A pathetic, misrepresentation (assuming you mean me).

If you've been paying any sort of attention you'd know that I'm loyal to no party.

Well it was meant in humour Simon

Actually I recall early opposition to the coalition being criticised by yourself as in some way inappropriate. Perhaps you're loyal to the coalition as the country's only hope (which I took from your posts), rather than to one party.

 I'm not trying to mis-represent you, but that's what I took from some of your early post election comments

I always said that what I actually want is a stable, successful, government. And I even uttered the immortal line that if Brown getting back in provided that then so be it.

I don't want any government to fail its citizens (as much as a government can ever look after ALL of us) because of my political prejudices.

I know it doesn't sit well on here sometimes, but for me it really is a case of living on a day to day basis, trying not to worry too much and giving my job and my life all I can without giving too much of a damn what Cameron, Clegg and Milliband do. It's all the same dance with different directors.

I accept that approach only works to an extent, but I would never wish a government to fail. Quite the opposite - regardless of its colour (or blend) stability is the key, for me.

Thus I want the coalition to have a good run at it. If it fails it fails. But there isn't a single party out there that would win an election outright just now, and Labour could hardly double up with the Lib Dems now, so from my perspective what we have is realistically what the electorate provided us with, all be it that they didn't vote for it directly (they couldn't!), and an election wouldn't change anything except it might introduce instability and uncertainty.

Very realistic that Simon.


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#78 Posted : 06 January 2011 23:33:12(UTC)
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Lib-Dems drop to a new low

YouGov/Inews International

Con 39% Lab 43% Lib-Dem 7% Lab Lead 4%

Rural West Northants 120m asl

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#79 Posted : 07 January 2011 10:08:37(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Gavin P Go to Quoted Post

Lib-Dems drop to a new low

YouGov/Inews International

Con 39% Lab 43% Lib-Dem 7% Lab Lead 4%

Bizarre editorial in the Times yesterday urging voters in Oldham to vote Lib Dem in the by-election, for no other reason than to give Clegg a reward for destroying his own party by joining the coalition!

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#80 Posted : 07 January 2011 20:58:49(UTC)
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Yes some strange goings on ..... not sure why Clegg should be rewarded for his brazen act of political betrayal in the interests of personal power.

Tebbit makes more sense by urging Tories to vote UKIP so the nauseating LDs can finish fourth  

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